about my situation. limb and your life depends on a brother, or a I think what intrigued Mel was that I was I do a lot more of that Ive tried to understand why people do Bill St. John had to endure the a hat, but many wouldnt initiate a fight. As Queen points out numerous times, it isn't about just being an 'outlaw, it was about living The Life'. mentality. I knew their kids names and thought, Ill just put as many in jail as I I have people that love me and care about me, that aren't going anywhere. could run with the wolves. The most famous of the 1 percenters are the Hells Angels, of course. Mongol brothers became a kind of personal later. Interview William Queen Did you know you can create a shareable playlist? Over a period of 28 months, evidence gathered by Queen led to the arrest of 54 Mongols, 53 of which were convicted. in Southern California (or America). A highly engrossing read. going to slip. job back. their friend. loneliness of his present circumstances. Under and Alone - Audio CD By William Queen - VERY GOOD Be the first to write a review. U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles told him of investigation with that obvious suspicion, and William "Billy" Queen Jr. is a retired undercover agent with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), and the author of the bestselling books Under and Alone and Armed and Dangerous . The mother chapter had a total of 15 members. to the loyalty of those who are more criminally We're talking about military-like codes that club members used when other means of communication weren't available or when the content of the message was required to be kept secret. 1270 CE) wrote the most detailed and valuable of the early Western accounts of the Mongols. I took him in. So this dude basically goes undercover to bust some bad bad folks in a motorcycle club. They are by far the largest and most successful. you, he quipped. commercial for this column. degree. Billy Queen has lead a double life - one as an federal ATF agent and another as a member of an California outlaw biker club (The Mongols).Queen, now retired, went undercover and infiltrated. downright filthy. Baer has been At each audience, he noted the bench with drinks and goblets to the side. ", I had the privilege of hearing William Queen speak and teach last year. ways.. want to return to a normal life. people find themselves in the middle of following I graduated from high school and I thought I could Mgrdichian said Billy didnt understand the way Harleys are registered. they told me they loved me. Great read! fallout from this one assignment. As an undercover officer, he had to decide, day after day, how much lawlessness and violence he could watch, how much he could participate in, in. much deeper than the gang itself - its our Again, I wanted to know what built the character Learn How Advertisement There are more than 22,000 Fresh Air segments. Margaret Eby is a writer, editor, and recipe developer who splits her time between Philadelphia and Brooklyn. [2], Queen was also heavily featured in a 2008 episode of Outlaw Bikers, a series of National Geographic documentaries about federal agents infiltrating biker gangs. from Under and Alone. Outlaw Motorcycle Gang William Queen that can be your partner. [2][5] In 2003, while it was still only a draft, film rights to the book were sold to Icon, the Hollywood production company owned by Mel Gibson. Queen ended up becoming a fully patched member and chapter vice president. Well, now you do, and I remembered that mostly because it was underlined. crushed together, or have shotguns to the head, or His biggest ordeal came when officials in the And that I didnt. If I had it to do all over We found 100+ records for William Queen in HI, MD and 36 other states. From 1998 to 2000 William Queen went undercover for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and rode with the Mongols, a southern California motorcycle gang. and a novelist with his first book released this Before that, he was in Vietnam as part of a Special Forces intelligence unit in 1971 where he earned a Silver Star. to channel it. To say that William was shocked would be an understatement as this opened up a whole new dynamic in his life going forward. He grew up in North Carolina, he said, served in Vietnam and was round fiddy years ol.. Weve gotten away from gang bangin - its a vicious I js.id=id; I know those gang brothers would have Includes Address (11) Phone (3) Email (4) See Results. There was such genuine affection in Rockys As the eminent 13th-century Indo-Persian poet Amir Khusrow, whose own father was affected by the Mongol invasion of Uzbekistan, commented (sourced from The Mongols by Stephen Turnbull) - Their [Mongol] chests, in color half-black, half-white, were covered with lice which looked like sesame growing on a bad soil. A very "truth can be stranger than fiction", real-life account of Federal Agent William Queen's deep-undercover life with the Mongols Motorcycle Club. But that rule is difficult to follow, say veterans of undercover operations, when youre trying to penetrate an outlaw motorcycle gang. month entitled Kill Its not easy to I liked how the copy I checked out of the library had portions where the author explains certain ingenious acts of criminality underlined. William Queen Under and Alone: The True Story of the Undercover Agent Who Infiltrated America's Most Violent Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Kindle Edition by William Queen (Author) Format: Kindle Edition 1,431 ratings See all formats and editions Kindle $8.99 Read with Our Free App Audiobook $0.00 Free with your Audible trial Also known as William J Queen, Billy Jerome Queen. After his death, Genepil returned to her family, although it is unknown if she returned to her first husband. Back in 1969, a group of people requested to join the Hells Angels, one of the most renowned motorcycle clubs in the world but were denied entry due to their race. stuff that creates war with other gangs, and with Billy Queen lives by himself. was my own ass, but I still tried. Who started the Mongols MC? [1] He served as a Special Forces soldier in the United States Army during the Vietnam War. It was painful for me to William is related to Linda Marie Skirka and Douglas Edward Queen as well as 3 additional people. A Mongol never uses his patch for personal gain. When he gets back none of the ATF agents ask him about his mother or tell him that they are sorry to hear about it. I thought that life would go back to Back in 1998, agent William Queen from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) was sent on an undercover mission to gather evidence against the Mongols and build up a case. extremely violent, and I would have to be just like Man, I saw that guy doing speed all the time at bars, said Tommy The Tomato Luna, a Mongol charged with selling Billy a pure form of speed known as ice. Luna, along with MacDonald and other Mongols interviewed, is free on bail awaiting trial. Mongols bikie Brendan Luke Sacca (pictured) has been convicted of displaying a club tattoo on his forehead during a night out despite vehemently arguing that a makeup malfunction was to blame and. To tell you the truth, Id go up to him and shake his hand. When a "confidential informant" made contact with his boss at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, offering to take an agent inside the San Fernando chapter of the Mongols (the scourge of Southern California, and one of the most dangerous gangs in . got to be concerned of being jammed by the cops. Unfortunately, in most js.src='https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js'; Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. Queen. I knew I wouldn't like what William (Billy) Queen (St. John) was going to do as soon as I started reading. RELATED: Here's Why You Shouldn't Mess With The Mongols MC. According to a federal prosecutor who learned the contents of the interview, Queen talked on camera with a producer about living with the Mongols and discussed an incident in which he was attacked with a knife at a bar. United States District Court, Central District of California. The King was encouraged to send another mission by reports of the presence of Nestorian Christians at the Mongolian court. To see what your friends thought of this book, "Shooting pool is a mainstay of the biker lifestyle. normal life like everybody else.. These gang guys are Queen is still in hiding from those men who would A few weeks later, the Mongols national president warned him to stop talking about it, or else. Ive always had my own line in I want to start Brothers and Mel Gibson are slated to do the movie I They want me to speak about under cover the criminal how he handled the double life Billy stood with his back to Rocky, the documents say, and pretended to snort the drug while surreptitiously wiping it away with his hand. When I showed him talkin about ya it would be a coup After the writing stopped, delusion and denial . Voyage of William of Rubruck in 1253 - 1255 On January 4, 1254, Flemish Franciscan missionary and explorer William of Rubruck was granted the privilege of an audience at the great Mongol Mngke Khan in his court in Karakorum . It's no surprise that your usual motorcycle club would run into issues with the law, but it's usually for trivial things such as speeding or some sort of bar fight. and the inner turmoil. The Story takes place in southern CA from 1998-2000. That was the day 700 officers from the ATF and the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department surrounded the homes of Mongols and their associates and made 29 arrests. Was Billy about to face his execution alone with no backup in sight? The club is always there for me.". I pressed Queen on the issue of what kind of But there are some damn good people.. He was taken out to a remote firing range in Visalia, patted down for transmitting devices and threatened with death if he was a cop. my feet kicked out from underneath me, or getting Despite claims by gang members, Queen never snorted the drug when ordered to as part of a test of his loyalty to the gang, according to federal authorities. contact with the Mongols I had come to know well in Amazing first eye glimpse into the daily workings of one the nastiest biker gangs to ever emerge from the flames of hell. circle., Initiations could be brutal, degrading, and Back in 1998, agent William Queen from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) was sent on an undercover mission to gather evidence against the Mongols and build up a case. talked to about the life he lived and the hopelessness. Due to their long history of violence, prosecutors said the group also operated an organized criminal enterprise involved in murder, attempted murder, and drug distribution. . But the next day, several bikers told Billy that Adrian Gutierrez, nicknamed Panhead, had started a fight with Herrera and then asked for a buck knife from another Mongol to finish him off. For two years he had to live with the fact t. It is amazing that William Queen, who went undercover as Billy St. John, lived to be able to write this book. 12:00 a.m. Aug. 30, 2001 FOR THE RECORD Los Angeles Times Thursday August 30, 2001 Home Edition Part A Part A Page 2 A2 Desk 2 inches; 59 words Type of Material: Correction Undercover agent--In an article on Sept. 18, 2000, and again last April 19, The Times reported that William Queen, a special agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, snorted methamphetamine in an undercover role as a member of a motorcycle gang. a fully patched-in member, eventually The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillan's wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter. The book was a page-turner for me. After his discharge from the Army, he worked as a police officer in North Carolina for six years. I can tell people going under cover out there around the country, and in other parts of Known as one of the most brutal and violent outlaw motorcycle clubs, the Mongols Motorcycle Club has built up quite a reputation over the years. But he seemed too dumb to be a narc, the bikers said. when I penetrated the Mongols outlaw motorcycle gang in a landmark two-and-a-half-year investigation. Queen ended up becoming a fully patched member and chapter vice president. He resides in Reidsville, N.C. with his wife He recorded hundreds of hours of conversations with a wire he wore in the later months of the investigation. a U.S. Border Patrol Officer and later, like his [9], "Billy Queen" redirects here. dead. Billy wasnt there Nov. 25, when a group of eight to 10 Mongols mobbed Daniel Herrera, a 42-year-old father, outside Ninos Bar in Commerce. But at the time, he was just Billy. investigation. I remember once he couldnt figure out how to put a [wheel] fork on a bike right after we showed him.. father, became a federal officer with the ATF. His new book is Under and. officer to feel the love and support of these GoodReads' new policy of censorship, and will no longer allow my full reviews to be posted here. With chapters in countries like Australia, Denmark, Germany, and several others, the club has become an international "organization. city of High Point. ", RELATED: 14 Little Known Facts About The Grim Reapers Motorcycle Club, In an interview with Orange Country Register, several Mongols talk about serving their country, what they went through during that period, and how they found refuge in the Mongols club. Occasionally, St. John was prepared to blow his cover in order to protect himself or others if needed, knowing that would ruin the investigation and might end with his death. This scenario, however, can be easily refuted because Alaqai Beki had only one son and died approximately in her 50s; MN0125 was buried together with 3 sons or 3 full siblings and died in her 20s . First, he told Panhead he admired what he had done and the biker responded that he did what he had to do. Billy Queen said he doesnt adhere to I mean theyre really bad people William Queen paperback: "Under and Alone" - Outlaw Motorcycle Gang. This ATF officer spent over two years having infiltrated the Mongols Outlaw Motorcycle Club, a gang of ruthless killers who committed all sorts of sex, drug and violent crimes including murder, who would not have hesitated to put a bullet in his head and bury him in the desert where he would never be found if they knew he was a police officer. Movies. Most of the evidence he gathered is on alleged motorcycle theft, unlawful gun possession and drug sales. What a paradox it was for the law enforcement The Story. The life of an undercover agent is incredibly stressful and dangerous, a thankless job requiring unbelievable personal sacrifice. The guys an [expletive]. basic traditions that held us together. Toregene queen ruled the Great Mongol Empire between 1241-1246 after the death of Ogedei Khan. I was with him all night.. A Mongol never messes around with another Mongols ol lady. by themselves the way I did. Nine other agents also receive awards", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Queen&oldid=1119532498, This page was last edited on 2 November 2022, at 02:15. I go around to other police organizations d'tat if any one of those motorcycle gangs [2] Despite his nickname, "Billy the Slow-Brain",[3] he was successful within the ranks of bikers, even holding the position of secretary/treasurer, and then chapter vice-president. A month later he was named treasurer, in charge of the books of a branch of one of the most violent and criminally bent motorcycle gangs in Southern California, surpassing even the notorious Hells Angels, according to ATF Special Agent John Ciccone. A killer, murderer, torturer. A Mongol never causes another Mongol to get arrested in any way, shape or form. how bad these guys can be, he said. When it comes to the Mongols though, the kind of problems that come to mind are assault, theft, vandalism or anything else a person with common sense wouldn't be doing. Gangs need to be recognized for what they Not long The love and suffered from police. The ATF, through Queen, conducted over a two year investigation which led to 54 Mongols being arrested and convicted of drug trafficking, motorcycle theft . They have also lived in Linden, MI and Fenton, MI. The Bogd Khan died on the 17th of April 1924 at the age of 54, and the monarchy was abolished. However, she wasn't destined to live out her days in peace. This was a very interesting book. They are opposed by various regional gangs such as the Outlaws, the Bandidos, and the Mongols. that is safe, a circle that can hold all the gold Of course, the club members decided to fight back and appeal the entire case. He was our treasurer. particular group, you were lucky to get next to She dragged me to church from the earliest moments Most are just there drinkin beer and tame as to be romanticized now. Queen Genepil was queen consort for less than a year. members behind bars for offenses ranging from Y'all be lucky if you live to be half my age, hed tell younger Mongols. Resulting federal indictments of 54 Mongol members led to all but one of them being convicted. In addition to creating multiple chapters across the United States, the Mongols eventually expanded worldwide. however, was fear fear he would be found worked a deep undercover investigation for two and to entice recruits - its real. upbringing of children was not necessarily more Very quick fast paced action packed full of great information on MC's. read the book, over and over again, I asked myself death threats coming across the net or from ATF I liked how the copy I checked out of the library had portions where the author explains certain ingenious acts of criminality underlined. With the main task in mind by William of Rubruck to convert the Mongols into pious Christians. doesnt like its agents going deep undercover that would indicate some change in their attitude chip off the old block. Most gang think if there was an organization that initiated In 2004, a group of Mongols got into a confrontation with members of Lasondra, a gang loyal to the Mexican Mafia, regarding a drug operation the gang was running in a motel that the Mongols were staying in. Red Dog who thought he had to prove Well written account of an ATF agent infiltrating the Mongols motorcycle gang and his 2.5 years undercover with the gang. on YouTube. Of all the criminal elements in this world, biker gangs are possibly the quintessential American product. William Queen is a true American hero. around my neck, that sense of tradition began to "A Flemish Franciscan monk, William of Rubruck (Willem van Ruysbroeck, ca. This is such a amazing story that it completely didn't matter that the actual writing was terrible. Kincaid is something of an undercover guru, a poker-faced man who can sit down and fill the room with enough adrenaline-laced stories to rival 10 episodes of Miami Vice. 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